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On the importance of stochasticity in closures of turbulence(a)

  • University of Rome “Tor Vergata”
  • CNRS LTCI
  • Johns Hopkins University
  • IMPA

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Abstract

Deterministic closures for coarse-grained turbulence models help reproduce mean statistics, but often fail to capture the finite-time growth of uncertainty. Using the framework of shell models as a quantitative multi-scale testbed, we compare fully resolved simulations with large-eddy simulations using either stochastic or deterministic subgrid closures. While in the fully resolved system a single microscopic perturbation is rapidly amplified by strongly chaotic dynamics, truncation produces a strong delay and suppression of variance growth when uncertainty is introduced through initial condition perturbations only. We show that a data-driven Langevin-type stochastic closure restores the correct timing and magnitude of variance growth across scales, demonstrating that sustained stochasticity is essential for predictability in reduced turbulent dynamics.

Original languageEnglish
JournalEPL
Volume154
Issue number2
DOIs
Publication statusPublished - 1 Apr 2026

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